Bobby Bailey ([info]bobbybailey) wrote,
@ 2005-04-03 01:11:00
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crying in the wild night of doubt
Dear World,

The title above is a little grave here, so I will immediately assure all readers that while I consider the content contained herein very serious, in the grand scheme of things, I know it's not really that big of a deal so don't get worried about me. I reflect on many things, but none more than this so I thought I would share my thoughts with the world.

Let me also preface this by saying, that some existentialist dude once said that he never felt a day of despair in his whole life. I feel that way too. I am hugely blessed. I got great parents that raised me. Great parents that gave me life. Four awesome families full of insanely great people. Siblings I am proud to have. Friends who put up with my bullshit and are always ready for adventure. I'm smart. I have a great job. I try to be a good steward of my talents and various blessings. I have been lucky enough to have loved and been loved by a few pretty girls. In general, my life is pretty much prefect. The best part is, I am working to make it better, and it seems to get sweeter by the day.

My main goal in life is to raise a family and be a great husband and father. Seriously, if I do have the job my parents did with me, I think it'll work out great. I have the other "normal" goals too: financial security, nice house, stick shift convertible, etc.

Now, it would seem with all that said, I would have the philosophy department all sewn up. But I just don't.

I try to live my life as Christ-like as possible. I want to be forgiving. I want to help others, even if sometimes tradition stands in the way. I want to not judge. I want to improve the lives of the people I touch. I want to generally be a nice guy and not get caught up in the unimportant stuff in life.

That said, I want, with great desperation, to be have faith. My heart is filled with so much doubt. The world, with so much absurdity and misery, is a hard thing to deal with while trying to believe in a loving creator.

Without a God, life is pretty much meaningless. We simply become chemical reactions driven by sunlight just trying to survive as long as possible. The "soul" is just the firing of neurons in the brain. Love is just something to assist in the mating process. Put simply, life just becomes a waste of time without God.

I think of all the order and beauty in the world and I can't help but think that there is a greater order or meaning. This thing around me, and my life, cannot just be a random machination in a grand sea of chaos. DNA is so so complicated. The machinery of life is beyond complex. I want to just succumb to it, and believe that I matter.

As close as I can come, I am sidetracked by so so many things. The thought of a person changing because of chemical or injury. How permanent can the soul really be if we are so fragile that our very identities are subject to our physicality. Life, it seems, is cheap and perhaps getting cheaper. So many people kill and are killed for meaningless things that I wonder why God sits idle. The crusades, the holocaust, all the wars, and all the needless pain and suffering in the world makes no sense. It all seems so absurd.

A friend of mine once said that "the ways of God are not the ways of man". Can light exist without dark. Can we truly be happy without knowing sadness?

What is my point with all this? I want to have faith. I want to know that my life and the lives around me matter. I want to just live knowing that we are more than atoms.

I welcome any and all comments on this, be it in this forum or in person.

Sincerely,
bobby


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[info]schlatko
2005-04-02 10:36 pm UTC (link)
Your life and the lives of the others around you do matter. Maybe not to everyone on the planet but your friends matter to you. You matter to your friends and to your family. People love you and you love people. That makes you valuable. The existence or non-existence of a supreme being doesn't diminish or contribute to that fact. Even if life is just a serious of random chemical reactions that have slowly, over the course of trillions of years, brought you into being at this place and at this time, it still has meaning.

I don't know your deeper feelings about faith and religion but it seems to me that you are trying to force your faith. It's not bad that you want it but faith is like a romantic relationship. If you force it and it's just not working, it'll make you miserable. You end up wasting a lot of time when you could be focused on making yourself a better person to the people you care about and to the rest humanity.

For me, realizing that I didn't have faith, as far as any religion is concerned, was an enormous relief. It was when I could actually start working on my life instead of trying to define it by something that I didn't really believe in. I wanted to believe. For years I tried, but it never happened and it almost tore me apart inside.

I don't know if this will help. I know that religion is something that is very hard to let go of. But, for me, it worked.

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the matter of mattering
[info]bobbybailey
2005-04-02 10:58 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your sharing your thoughts with me. If I might ask, how did you happen on my words?

I think we may be talking about different kinds of mattering. In the love and loved sense, which would for me translate to our role as cogs in the economic and productive aspect of humanity, we all matter. We are producers and consumers and are interlocked into that relationship. When we die, our productivity dies with us, and the things we produced are used, and we are forgotten. I do take solace in the fact that regardless my existance will never be "erased". My life is now a part of the annals of time.

I enjoy your thought of "forced faith". I think that is exactly and completely what I am trying to do. Ideally, I would like to be a Christian, for the fact of my upbringing and my agreement with it's basic tenants (forgiving, accepting, generally being cool with everyone, and knowing that God loves you and has a plan).

When the faith becomes religion it gets a little stickier. I don't feel like I need to spend my Sunday in church, for example. I think if two dudes or two chicks want to get married, more power to them. I think abortion is murder, but I don't think it's the role of the government to regulate it because it's a personal decision for the woman carrying the child.

All I want is to have faith that we are more than atoms. Yes, we can still define meaning in the context of only having a physical existence, but to truly escape the surly bondage of the crude matter of which we are made requires a leap into the metaphysical. I would like, in a perfect world to have the Christian framework with a omniscient deity and (for the most part) the moral code outlined in the new testament.

Like Marx said, "religion is the opiate of the masses." That is very true. I would like to be present at the funeral of a friend or relative and know, not wonder if, that I will see them again.

Nothingness is a hard pill to swallow. If you do indeed have to swallow it, it's hard for me to believe that anything really matters.

bobby

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xclichex
2005-04-03 11:33 am UTC (link)
I believe you can experience spirituality without fitting yourself into a neat, prepackaged Christian way. And you can live life as a good person without referencing Christ. I am a good person because that's how I feel my life should be led--not because the Bible says so.

One of the most terrifying things I have thought about is the idea of nothing. The idea that once we are dead, we are dead. And since I know nothing of that experience... I'm scared. What will it be like? I won't even know. When all you know is living and breathing, the thought of *nothing* seems frightening. Being the atheist that I am, that is the one aspect I have not yet come to terms with. I know that when I die, I will cease completely. My ashes will be buried under a large leafy tree somewhere I have yet to find and that will be the end of it.

There is so much to this discussion and conversation and I've got some serious practicing to do. I will see you Thursday. 6pm. Sunergos. Correct?

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[info]mageek
2006-06-24 03:12 am UTC (link)
With Mercy for the Greedy

for my friend Ruth, who urges me to make an
appointment for the Sacrament of Confesson

Concerning your letter in which you ask
me to call a priest and in which you ask
me to wear The Cross that you enclose;
your own cross,
your dog-bitten cross,
no larger than a thumb,
small and wooden, no thorns, this rose --

I pray to its shadow,
that gray place
where it lies on your letter ... deep, deep.
I detest my sins and I try to believe
in The Cross. I touch its tender hips, its dark jawed face,
its solid neck, its brown sleep.

True. There is
a beautiful Jesus.
He is frozen to his bones like a chunk of beef.
How desperately he wanted to pull his arms in!
How desperately I touch his vertical and horizontal axes!
But I can't. Need is not quite belief.

All morning long
I have worn
your cross, hung with package string around my throat.
It tapped me lightly as a child's heart might,
tapping secondhand, softly waiting to be born.
Ruth, I cherish the letter you wrote.

My friend, my friend, I was born
doing reference work in sin, and born
confessing it. This is what poems are:
with mercy
for the greedy,
they are the tongue's wrangle,
the world's pottage, the rat's star.


-Anne Sexton

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